“Evolutionism The Lie Agreed Upon!” A dissatisfied customer.
Posted on August 14, 2009 at 10:56 pm by Dr. Jim
In response to the first “Know Yer Nuts” post made last month (read it here), that had a laugh and a question or two at the expense of the Creation Truth Ministries and Alberta Dinosaur Museum, The Thinking Shop has received the following well reasoned communication:
“Evolutionism The Lie Agreed Upon!”
You CLOWNBOYS are hopeless! Evolutionism is a JOKE! Dick Dawkins and Eugenie Scott are clueless. They BELIEVE in EVERYTHING FROM NOTHING. Ya right! nice belief system! I guess that’s why neither will debate John Mackay. They don’t want to prove their loser’s like we know they are! lol. I wish I had as much FAITH as you Clowns! Check out You-Tube wazooloo (aka) Ian Juby. It will shake your FAITH to it’s foundation! lol!
An anonymous creationist with the email address of bvcsm@*****.*** sent it in. I wonder what those letters could mean. “Big Valley Creation Science Museum” comes to mind. Which reminds me, I visited there last year and have a mess of pictures. I will post the good ones this weekend!
Anyway, here is Ian Juby, be prepared to have your FAITH shaken to it’s (sic) foundation. Or fall off your chair laughing. Or just get up and get more beer and go watch TV. The video goes on for almost half an hour. And he has scads of other videos.
Speaking of more beer *gets up to go to fridge…*
*comes back with a nice cold Pilsner Urquell*
Ok, so where was I? Oh yeah… pontificating.
What the hell would be the point of Dawkins or Scott debating some creationist with a small time operation out in Alberta? Really, you people are not really that important!
And why debate at all? Will anybody convince anyone to change their minds? Not likely. Will the “winner” of the debate establish what truth is? No. Science and most other kinds of academic knowledge is not demonstrated by agreeing to debates with people who deny the most basic fundamentals of critical study. If this John Mackay of the Creation Truth Ministry, wants to establish that the world was created, let him try to win scientists over in the proper way, publishing the findings of his research in proper venues. If he isn’t prepared to do that, he is just another Joe Blow selling the equivalent of flat earth theories.
There, I feel better now.
Now, it has been a while since I ended a post with a totally gratuitous and sexist picture of slinky woman that has absolutely nothing to do with the post. But since I’m now in a good mood…
Carole Landis, in the 1940 dinosaur meets girl film, One Million BC
Landis’ only lesbian scene.
Ah, and then there is the remake of that film in 1966 with the title One Million Years B.C.
Raquel Welch
The controversial picture that was supposed to have graced the posters for the film. Apparently some people had problems with it.
Of course, ridiculous as these films are putting dinosaurs and people together, they are at least putting together a long time ago (but at a time when neither dinosaurs or modern humans lived…). Young earth creationists would put the age of the earth at only a 6000 years or so. It’s pretty bad when pure movie fantasy bears a little more resemblance to reality than what many people sell as truth.
Oh, and check out my pics of the Royal Tyrrell Museum, the REAL dinosaur and so much maur museum in Alberta! HERE
August 14, 2009 at 11:15 pm
Dr. Jim,
I thank you! Oh, and was there text, too? Sheesh, you really do work at this atheisticy stuff, don’t you!
August 15, 2009 at 1:18 am
Well, duh: I have six advanced degrees, 3 of them in contradictory physics: it is, it isn’t, and it is too (but just not the same). That is three, right? And then, after that unremembered fall from the hay-loft n my head when I was in a coma for six months, I saw the light and recognised that drooling the morning’s porridge was not all there was to life. Other bodily processes might just prevail: hence the video.
August 15, 2009 at 12:56 am
Who’s to know whether that’s the real email address though, and not faked headers? Plus, it’s also @telus.net address, so it’s not like it’s associated with the actual website.
The video has rather obnoxious music at the beginning.
As far as I can find out via the internet, his qualifications are that he’s a member of Mensa. He’s an enthusiast/hobbyist. If he’s actually got qualifications, he’s keeping them secret.
It’s too bad that he’s wasted his intelligence on making up and repeating others’ crap, rather than properly educating himself on the topics he claims to have knowledge of (thermodynamics, biology, etc).
August 16, 2009 at 9:21 pm
Jimbo, Thanks for sending all the business our way. Keep it up and we’ll be sending you a Christmas Card. lol Maybe you would like to debate John Mackay on Creation vs evolutism. You being a doc and all. Oh thats right you can’t defened your FAITH in evolutionism either. I can’t wait to hear your excuses. lol
August 16, 2009 at 9:39 pm
Glad to be of service.
“Excuses”? Why isn’t your “science” actually taught in university? What are YOUR excuses for your failure to win the real debate?
Why isn’t creationism defended in so many churches? You are losing the debate with your own coreligionists, I would love to hear your excuses about that, too, you being a Christian and all!
August 16, 2009 at 11:11 pm
Jimbo is that a NO!
August 16, 2009 at 11:37 pm
Jimbo, They are like you LIBERALS! Are dodging the The DEBATE QUESTION ?
August 16, 2009 at 11:45 pm
Mr. Juby, Maybe Jimbo will DEBATE you? I can’t wait to hear his excuse!
August 16, 2009 at 11:47 pm
No, I answered the debate question in a letter to Vance Nelson. Of course I’m not going to legitimize creationism. It has lost the science debate more than a hundred years ago. There is no more point to debating that than there is debating the guys who think the earth is flat, demons cause desease or NASA faked the moon shots. It doesn’t deserve to be taken seriously.
I’m sorry, Mr. “Evolutionism The Lie Agreed Upon!” you have nothing cogent to say and now you are even railing against other Christians. I hope this gives you the feeling of being empowered, but really, you or John Mackay are of no consequence to and have made no contribution to the academic endeavor to learn about the world in which we live.
August 17, 2009 at 12:08 am
Jimbo, let me get this right your saying In the last hundred years we have not learned anything new. WOW! What are you so SCARED of. If we don’t have any evidence. One would think you would be able to just blow us out of the water. Pretty lame excuses Jimbo!
August 17, 2009 at 12:21 am
If your side hadn’t been blown out of the water you would be teaching in a proper university and not raving anonymously on someone else’s website.
August 17, 2009 at 11:16 pm
Jimbo, Are you trying to show us that evolution can that place, that a CHICKEN can evolve horns. Just because you have a Ph.D. doesn’t make you right, but it MAY give you an advantage. In the real world you have to prove yourself. He who can, DOES and he who can’t, TEACHES. Just admit it Jimbo you know your WRONG and so do your colleagues. At least you and your colleagues are smart enough not to DEBATE. Hey I don’t blame you and your colleagues. If I BELIEVED in evolution and couldn’t prove it. I sure wouldn’t want to be shown up by some YOUNG EARTH CREATIONIST CHRISTIAN. Save your breath Jimbo, I’ve heard all your REHASHED EXCUSES. Science keeps proving you WRONG. That’s why you evolutionary atheists are so replused by the BIG VALLEY CREATION SCIENCE MUSEUM. Isn’t Science Great!
May 13, 2011 at 1:01 pm
He who can’t teaches…he who can get’s paid to teach and then has his TA’s actually teach. I know, cuz I was a TA =/
August 16, 2009 at 10:03 pm
Dear Creationist. Please repeat these simple thoughts over and over, and you might begin to see the difference.
1) Mark Twain: “Faith is believin’ what you know ain’t so.”
I think that sums it up, but maybe it would be more polite to say faith is believing something for which there is no evidence (other than not wanting to doubt your sunday school teachers; also supported by various warm feelings).
2) Science: believing only what you can prove and show evidence for, and then using that new knowledge to go to the next step.
See the difference? It’s not that hard. Read a bit. That helps, too.
August 16, 2009 at 11:31 pm
Dan, Google Dr. Gary Parker. Dan WHY ARE SO MANY SCIENIST COMING OVER TO OUR CAMP? lol!
August 17, 2009 at 7:52 pm
You mean self-appointed “scientists”. I don’t know the motivations if such people.
August 17, 2009 at 7:54 pm
of such people
I keep asking the Lord for better vision, but no response. (Also would He please stop wantonly murdering families with typhoons and lightening, etc., so my request seems petty.
August 25, 2009 at 10:14 am
Now there’s something you don’t see every day (at least not in recent centuries).
http://creation.com/regarding-john-mackay
August 25, 2009 at 10:52 am
Holy cow!
I wonder if the churches Mackay is supposed to speak at in Sept. Bethel United Reform Church in Calgary and Crossroads Church in Red Deer know of these allegations and Mackay’s apparent excommunication from his Baptist church in Australia?
August 25, 2009 at 10:52 am
More about that:
http://www.bcseweb.org.uk/index.php/Main/MargaretBuchanan
Posted by the British Centre for Science Education (BCSE), “a group dedicated to promoting and defending science education in the UK.”
August 25, 2009 at 11:06 am
So this is their best science speaker, with all the facts… accusing others of demonic this and that.
I wonder if he could cure me of the small elf that is living in my liver, maybe with some herbs or a pentagram or something.
October 31, 2009 at 4:20 pm
The writer of the rant posted at the top of this page is none other than the basically illiterate owner of the museum, Harry Nibourg.
Harry started corresponding with me several weeks ago by phone and when it became evident that I did not want to visit his little museum and did not believe his creationist nonsense, he became very abusive and threatening. To guage his reaction, and I admit it, to further provoke him, I began to e-mail him and belittle his beliefs. This has resulted in a large number of e-mails between Harry and myself, with Harry becoming more unglued with each letter. He favours the use of numerous capital letters to emphasize what he considers are his strong points and loves the term lol.
He is a born again former drug addict who found god one day when he chopped a hole in the ice of the Red Deer River and dunked his head into it, the clear water apparently awakening him to the truth of god.
He describes himself as a scientist, but has no scientific training and no training in paleontology, biology or anything related to fossils or dinosaurs. I believe he is slowly going mad as he realizes that he has wasted a huge amount of money on his little museum and it has now become evident to his little mind that very few people are interested in his bogus ideas and beliefs. He says he will continue to pray for me and I tell him I will always ask Satan to bless his enterprise. I appear to be winning.
October 31, 2009 at 5:36 pm
Rick,
Harry N. has made a few appearances here on the Thinking Shop, and has been in frequent communication with a friend of mine. He does seem a little prone to emotional outbursts, doesn’t he?
He hasn’t made an appearance for a while. I hope he is alright!
November 14, 2010 at 11:17 pm
The 1940 Carol Landis film was titled “One Million B.C.” also with Victor Mature. The 1966 remake with Raquel Welch was “One Million Years B.C.” with the talents of Ray Harryhausen.
May 13, 2011 at 12:57 pm
sucktastic! I went to all the trouble of subscribing and registering and I still can’t see the slinky chicks!?! What a tease. You hurt my soul!
May 13, 2011 at 5:56 pm
Oh crap, Don’t know what happened to the pictures! They didn’t get transferred over when I moved webhosts for some reason! Anyway, I tracked them down so all should be sufficiently sexist and prurient again!